USSR: Trouble From Within

[thenoahw]

When I first started looking into a USA Massive map someone suggested a Massive map from somewhere else like the USSR. So I threw one together in paint. Please don't judge the poor quality, I did this in about 15 minutes just to illustrate what came to mind

 

[LordAdef]

Wow, I like it. But it seems the Map department is on Hollydays waiting for the recode to be implemented

 

[KungFuDuet]

One potential problem I see with this map is the divisions of the regions. The Western side of the map is intensely denser than the eastern side - So we would either need to break down the eastern side into smaller regions and commands, or to group the western side a bit better.

 

[Sebrim]

Another alternative, which would be closer to reality, would be to make the Eastern half appear smaller through some kind of perspectivity - tilting the whole map te the right, so to speak

 

[Cardinalsrule]

One potential problem I see with this map is the divisions of the regions. The Western side of the map is intensely denser than the eastern side - So we would either need to break down the eastern side into smaller regions and commands, or to group the western side a bit better.

Definitely. thenoahw, you need to remember that there needs to be room for troop containers (and names) to appear. I'd suggest grouping a lot of the tiny terts on the east side of the map together.

How many terts are there on your first draft?

Also, as Adef said, there's a bit of a 'hold' on publishing new maps until the recoding is done, but that doesn't mean that it can't be worked on. Getting a map ready to the point of coding it is still worthwhile, if the cartographers agree that it's something that they're interested in working on. (The building of the PNG's for a map is tedious and labor intensive.)

Before anything else is done, we'd need Shep to weigh in with his thoughts.

 

[thenoahw]

Ok, I will change some things. thanks for the feedback

 

[thenoahw]

Aw man, I just realized that in none of those maps did I close in the eastern part. I thought I had. I never intended Poland and the other eastern Euro nations to be divided so much. I will go and clean those up a bit

 

[thenoahw]

These are more of what I had in mind. And I agree that it would look a lot nicer if the perspective made the west larger and the east smaller. Thoughts?

 

[Sebrim]

Those look nice!

However, you've taken some dangerous liberties with your regions:

1. "East Russia" should probably have been "Western Russia"
2. Finland was never part of the USSR or the Communist Bloc, and what you call Finland here is larger than the real Finland (which is only the two westernmost terts). Either, you leave Finland out altogehter, or you'll have to find a different title for the map.
3. A similar problem appears with your Eastern Bloc. It includes territories that were part of the Soviet Union (Ukraine, Belarus and the Baltic States) as well as territories that were independent states within the Communist Bloc (Poland, Romania, Hungary). This choice is somewhat random, and you either have to take out the independent units or somehow justify their inclusion in the title.

I can't really be of much help, since I'm swamped in work and go on holiday next week, but I'll happily conitnue with helping develop the map once I'm back mid-August

 

[dudeiamgood]

It looks to me like if you try to be politically correct, some regions will be inherently smaller than others. Why not, for some of those countries, do a sort of "breakaway command" (see British Isles and Conflict Africa for examples of this). I'm not sure which way is better.

 

[thenoahw]

Liberties

1. "East Russia" should probably have been "Western Russia" That was a typo on my part, my bad
2. Finland was never part of the USSR or the Communist Bloc, and what you call Finland here is larger than the real Finland (which is only the two westernmost terts). I wanted to include it and I did realize I was making it larger than life. I would have no problem leaving it out altogether
3. A similar problem appears with your Eastern Bloc. It includes territories that were part of the Soviet Union (Ukraine, Belarus and the Baltic States) as well as territories that were independent states within the Communist Bloc (Poland, Romania, Hungary). This choice is somewhat random, and you either have to take out the independent units or somehow justify their inclusion in the title. I did play with the eastern Europe a little but I ran into problems with geographical barriers and ending up with two micro commands with only a couple of terts in each ( east bloc and West USSR)

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[thenoahw]

It looks to me like if you try to be politically correct, some regions will be inherently smaller than others. Why not, for some of those countries, do a sort of "breakaway command" (see British Isles and Conflict Africa for examples of this). I'm not sure which way is better.

I thought aboutt hat but the map was so log already that I didnt know where to place one or how to do so

 

[thenoahw]

thoughts? critiques?