QUESTION: What is the most fair 1v1 map?

[NewSheriffInTown]

When it comes to 1v1 which map do you think is the most fair between these options?

And really, the follow up question is:

What settings/maps would you choose?

I'm planning a 50 player inaugural tournament, with 1000 points to the winner and 250 to the runner-up.

And the only way to make it work is with 50 players allocated like this:

Round 1: 5 players
Round 2: 5 players
Round 3: 2 players

and the maps I have to choose from are

• Classic Evolved
• Classic Massive
• Europe Massive
• Twelve Domains
• Land Rush

So I need two 5 player maps, and a final 2 player map.

I'm looking for the most fair settings.

 

[once]

in order to mitigate 1st turn advantage in 1vs1, i think one either needs

a) luck - which is why small maps are often better for duels imo, one lucky turn can flip the game
or b) enough room for tactics

out of the maps you mention, i think 12d, land rush, and europe massive would be the best picks.
even though those are all large maps, the deploy at the start of 12d & land rush is not because of all of the neutrals (though the autodeploys in 12d can quickly tip the game too).
and while europe massive has a strong 1st turn advantage with the high deploy, this map lends itself well to border reinforcements, thereby can create chances for player 2 with careful play.

something like no or border reinforcements on 12d may be the "most fair" setting, as so much would depend on careful thinking and movement, but this also makes for a very brutal and long game. however, since this would be the final in a high stakes tournament, this could be best?

not easy to strike a balance between playability and fairness, but i think my picks in order of preference would be:

1. 12d, 1 border escalate
2. land rush, 1 path escalate
3. europe massive, 3 border escalate

 

[Stormcat]

i chose the same 3 maps as the most fair/playable in 1v1s. but the first player's large deploy in europe massive does really create a challenge for the second player. i love 1v1s and mostly play LR and 12D bc i feel that good play (with a little luck in drop and dice) can mitigate the first turn advantage and make for better games than on lots of maps. d&c isn't a choice but is also quite a good 1v1 map.
the settings i would choose are:
12D escalate 1 path
LR escalate 3 path
euro massive, escalite 3 border

 

[NewSheriffInTown]

I would love to have the final game on duck and cover, lol. That is a very underrated map. But I feel it would be received as a bit anticlimactic...

I feel like 12D and LR are in the lead...

 

[once]

for what its worth, i too think duck & cover would make a splendid final, 1 border, escalite would be my first pick

 

[genghisknows]

After playing the three obvious preferred maps, Duck & Cover would be so anticlimatic so as to have a player concede in disgust. I would think that Classic Evolved with flat rate, 3 path would work just fine.

 

[bilsi]

I like.....
12 Domains 1, path, escalate
Land Rush 3, border, escalite
Europe massive 3, border, flat rate
And forget Duck and Cover please.

 

[NewSheriffInTown]

Just as a side question, would you all rank 3-player games worse (less desirable) than 2 player games?

 

[once]

Just as a side question, would you all rank 3-player games worse (less desirable) than 2 player games?

depends on the settings. 3 player assassin are excellent! personally id prefer this to a duel..

 

[Stormcat]

Just as a side question, would you all rank 3-player games worse (less desirable) than 2 player games?

100%

 

[Stormcat]

I like.....
12 Domains 1, path, escalate
Land Rush 3, border, escalite
Europe massive 3, border, flat rate
And forget Duck and Cover please.

so meso would also be out of the question? it's my other little favorite

 

[Stormcat]

depends on the settings. 3 player assassin are excellent! personally id prefer this to a duel..

3 player assassins are the exception to the rule, with good players

 

[NewSheriffInTown]

Okay, So I'm thinking the settings for the initial Tournament:

• 5 player : Classic Evolved : Escalate : 1 path
• 5 player : Classic Massive : Escalate : (1 or 3) path
• 2 player : 12 Domains : Escalate : 1 path

I'm gonna lock it in so we get this party started.

I'm leaning toward 3 path for Massive in round 2 so it doesn't drag too long.

 

[bilsi]

Okay, So I'm thinking the settings for the initial Tournament:

• 5 player : Classic Evolved : Escalate : 1 path
• 5 player : Classic Massive : Escalate : (1 or 3) path
• 2 player : 12 Domains : Escalate : 1 path

I'm gonna lock it in so we get this party started.

I'm leaning toward 3 path for Massive in round 2 so it doesn't drag too long.

 

[bilsi]

Classic Evolved never even made the list and nobody voted for Classic Massive.....What's the deal? I vote no for both of these...
Europe Massive 3, border, escalate or flat rate has to be one...
12D for the final and something else for round 2?

 

[bilsi]

Just as a side question, would you all rank 3-player games worse (less desirable) than 2 player games?

I think 3 player helps going first in games as opposed to a doubles game.