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MajCom League: September 2015 Season

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Late to comment but thanks a lot for setting this up. I would have tanked a few games to drop into the gold leagye if I had planned this better. ;)

I figure I'm a long shot but I have chance on my side!

Doubt it becomes an issue but what happens if someone does not accept a game invite for "x" number of days?
 

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SeekTheTruth, after going second, managed to fend off Springsteen and gain control of the Forgotten Kingdom.

The campaign by SeekTheTruth to liberate the populations of Europe from the oppressive Sebrimian regime was a complete success!
They may have started the war but we certainly finished it...


I was also victorious against Derswick on Classic Massive, going second again.

Bronze League
Middle East

SEEKTHETRUTH v HOMERION (1st)

I figure if we all post our links like this it would save Master a bunch of time - he'd just have to copy/paste then right?
I noticed as well that on the game list that first turn winners are placed on the left, and second turn wins on the right.. something to remember if you do it this way xD

Bronze League
British Isles

SEEKTHETRUTH v CAPTSWEATPANTS (1st)

Classic Evolved

SEEKTHETRUTH v MARC369 (1st)

Classic Antiquus

SEEKTHETRUTH v BALLZDEEP (1st)

Philippines:
MARC369 v SEEKTHETRUTH (2nd)

Rivals of Rome:
DERSWICK v SEEKTHETRUTH (2nd)

Back On Top. :marchmellow:

USA

SEEKTHETRUTH v ONESIMUS17 (1st)

North America:

ROADDOG6369 v SEEKTHETRUTH (2nd)

Duck & Cover:

SEEKTHETRUTH v SPRINGSTEEN (1st)
 
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Africa Silver:
SubwayatNight vs. RISK68, SubwayatNight won and went first. https://www.majorcommand.com/games/272712/

Silver league:
South America;
joeguarin vs. SubwayatNight;
joeguarin first and SubwayatNight wins;
https://www.majorcommand.com/games/273099/

Silver; SubwayatNight vs. bouttreefiddy on the 12 domains map. Subway went first and won.

https://www.majorcommand.com/games/272900/

Silver, DUCK & COVER:
MVPoker v SubwayatNight https://www.majorcommand.com/games/273101/

SubwayatNight went first and won.

Silver League, The Balkan Peninsula. SubwayatNight vs. CaptainDanger (Subway went first and won)

https://www.majorcommand.com/games/273084/

Silver. The Forgotten Kingdom. Subway vs. MVPoker. Subway went first and won.

https://www.majorcommand.com/games/273100/

Silver Classic Evolved, SubwayatNight vs. Estraug2. Estraug2 went first and SubwayatNight won.

Silver. Classic Anitquus.

SubwayatNight vs. Jbrenner01. Subway went first and won.

https://www.majorcommand.com/games/273085/

Silver. Cold War Europe.

SubwayatNight vs. joeguarin. SubwayatNight went first and won.

https://www.majorcommand.com/games/273229/

Japan:

XSB1977 v SUBWAYATNIGHT (2nd)
https://www.majorcommand.com/games/273098/

Rivals of Rome:

SUBWAYATNIGHT v TRAILBLAZER (1st)

Silver, North America:

CAPTAINDANGER v SUBWAYATNIGHT (2nd)

Duck and Cover, Silver League:
MVPOKER v SUBWAYATNIGHT (2nd)
 
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how about if someone does not join then you get the default win....would be terrible if one would lose most games playing 2nd and then couldn't play when they are supposed to be first because a player decides to bail..probably won't happen until the end when players realize they can't move up and prefer not to lose the points to a player going first..... just my 2 cents...
 

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would it be possible to see on the scoreboard the wins and the composition of the wins?

for example:

Played|.Wins.|.Turn 1st.|.Turn 2nd.|.Lost.|
...5....|....3...|......2.....|.......1.....|...2...|

probably a lot of admin but turn 2 could be used as a decider if scores are equal as a win when going second is worth more. it also helps to understand where you are versus your opponents.

Probably a lot of admin and asking a lot so understand if not possible. Not sure if this has been asked already.

Great concept and thanks for organising again.

xxx
 
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Some thoughts:

"wins going first" or "went second and won" may be accurate but to me seem ungainly phrases, why not adopt "home" and "away" as indicators? Obviously a "home win" would be a win going first and an "away win" would be winning going second.

Also, and probably more controversial: how about scoring 2 points for a home win and 3 points for an away win?


...me and ndrm seem to be heading for a record: just sent off an invite for our 8th try at getting a game where I'm selected to go first. ---edit--- on the 10th attempt we were succesful
 
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Hey guys, regarding what should happen if people don't join - I'm not exactly sure what the best solution is yet. I don't really like the thought of giving free wins, or having to take any away either. I'll think on it, but know this - you have all signed up to play 22 games each. If anyone decides to bail out then they will never be invited to the league again. They will be blacklisted and publicly shamed. So don't do it!!

Saying that, with the site being so unpredictable right now it may well be wise to leave some games for the rest of the 2 months you all have to get done. If we start to get close to the deadline, say 2 weeks before, and there are still games incomplete I will send out messages to all involved to get their asses in gear.

TheGeneral - I was going to do something like that originally but I didn't in the end, mainly because I didn't want to get snowed under with updating (even more than I am). It would be better, but it's a lot of work.. and much more likely I'd make mistakes =) Possibly in the future! I do like your idea of using second turn wins as a decider in the event of a tie though! First turn information is being recorded in the fixtures lists so I can figure it out later if need be. Opinions from the group on this possible change?

Cagey - There's probably some merit in making a first turn win 2 points and an second turn win 3.. but we've started now :D too late for this season! I do kinda like 1 point per win though, personally.
 

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https://www.majorcommand.com/games/272899/
Silver league mvpoker(1st) vs bouttreefiddy
British isles
Winner mvpoker

South America
MVPoker v Risk68 (1st)

3 wins
MIDDLE EAST ASIA
MVPOKER v CAPTAINDANGER (1st)
NUKES!
MVPOKER v ESTRAUG2 (1st)
BALKAN PENINSULA
JBRENNER01 v MVPOKER (2nd)

Rivals of Rome
MVPOKER v XSB1977 (1st)

12 domains

MVPOKER v PITMAN212 (1st)

Classic mini
JOEGUARIM v MVPOKER (2nd)

Sea of Japan

MVPOKER v JOEGUARIN (1st)

Philippines

TRAILBLAZER v MVPOKER (2nd)

North America

MVPOKER v JBRENNER01 (1st)
 
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I agree with Cagey's thought that going first be worth 2 points and going second be worth 3, but too late for this season as Master said. However, I don't think it'd make too much of a difference - the scores going 2nd will likely decide things anyway. We can crunch the numbers at the end to see if things might have turned out differently (and if we think maybe they should have).

TheGeneral, we have all the information to make such a list ourselves, so that would be a nice thing for one of us to compile and add.
 

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Ouch IronDuke, my first loss and its already up there...

Luckily i've got some wins to add:

Bronze league:

Australia Onesimus17 v Carhui. Carhui first and wins

Bronze league:

Classis mini Marc369 v Carhui. Marc first, Carhui wins.

Bronze league:

Far east asia SeekTheThruth v Carhui. Carhui first and wins

And here are the links:

Australia https://www.majorcommand.com/games/272923/
Classic Mini https://www.majorcommand.com/games/273012/
Far east asia https://www.majorcommand.com/games/272532/

https://www.majorcommand.com/games/272790/

Bronze Middle east
CaptSweatpans v carhui
Carhui started and won

Bronze Mars
carhui v Springsteen carhui started and won

https://www.majorcommand.com/games/273196/

sorry dont know how to do the thing with the names to save you time....

Sea of japan

CARHUI v MARC369 (1st)

bronze

classic evolved bronze

ROADDO3639 v CARHUI (2nd)

Please dubble check: carhui went second but won

12 domains bronze

SEEKTHETRUTH v CARHUI (2nd)
 
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I like the points idea for going first and 2nd. Here's an idea that would probably be too tough to pull off. Have a "confidence" rating for each game. With 22 games it could be something like you can rate each game 1-3 points based on how you think you will do. You would be allotted 7 votes each of 1 and 2 points and 8 votes for 3 points. Just because of math. ;)

So maybe you feel better about certain maps or you have had better luck against cardsrule - which is pretty much everyone on this site. *rimshot*

I haven't finished a game yet but I can say the two that I look to be winning while playing 2nd are due to ridiculous bad dice for my opponent and in one game some really good dice for me. And had one game where I was 2nd and had literally no chance to win before my 1st turn started. It might be too many games to deal with but playing everyone "home and away" on the same map would be a better indication of who played best overall. Going 2nd on the really big maps can be almost impossible to win without serious lucky dice.
 

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Onyx League Classic MINI - PackerHawkeye defeats calume while playing 2nd. The dice were very good and very bad, respectively.

https://www.majorcommand.com/games/272583/

Onyx league - Australia - defeated BadElmer - I had 1st turn.

https://www.majorcommand.com/games/272641/

The Balkan Peninsula

PackerHawkeye v BudH (1st)

The Sea of Japan

PACKERHAWKEYE v CALUME (1st)

Cold War Europe

NAMELOCHIL v PACKERHAWKEYE (2nd)

Sorry about not adding the name number for my other win today. I got that fixed.

Rivals of Rome

PACKERHAWKEYE v DALINAR (1st)
 
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Cagey made a suggestion as we were chatting in one of our games, maybe something to think about for future rounds of this competition.
What do you think about giving 2 points for winning a game going first and 3 for winning a game going second?
 

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I mentioned it earlier cards, Cagey made the suggestion here. I quite like the idea on the one hand, but there is a nice simplicity in 1 win = 1 point, plus sometimes the first turn even isn't that big of an advantage.. and sometimes it is. My point is that there's still a lot of luck involved, obviously. Not all second turn wins are necessarily going to have been an epic struggle against improbable odds. I mean, I would weigh a second turn win on massive as being much more significant than on 12D, for example. So for that reason my instincts are saying to just keep it simple, 1 win equals 1 point.

Something to think about for future seasons though.. if most people are for the idea then why not.
 
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